New comer says Hi and inrtoduces himself.

[E.K.Virtanen]

Hi everyone.
Just got registered here so i thought it is a good manner to greet everyone.

Im nearly 32 years old hobby programmer from Finland.
In basic languages, im mostly interested about FreeBASIC, QBasic and SmallBasic. Im also interested about php, python and ruby.

I am not so interested about graphics as my (actually it's our) website can quickly tell to you www.ascii-world.com
Im using also a linux only, so that rejects some cool looking basic dialects out of my usage but there is just things with what you got to live.
I am also one of the founders of PCopy "ezine", you can find released issues from here.

Since im newcomer, i dont want to get spam influence so i just quickly add short link here
http://www.gamedesignnovice.com/forum/t-24287/yes-you-may-help-me

Now, back to coding something (less) usefull.

E.K.Virtanen

[Charles Pegge]

Hello!

I recognise your name from the Freebasic forums. There is considerable interest in Freebasic here, but not many users yet. I am one of the few here using Freebasic with Linux. Unfortunately PowerBasic is confined to MS Windows at present but it is a very efficient Basic, with the compiler written entirely in assembler and has a rich set of intrinsic functions. Like Freebasic, it has its roots in Qbasic. It was originally released as Turbobasic back in the late 80's.

I hope in due course we will be able to share expertise and establish strong links with the Freebasic community.

[E.K.Virtanen]

Hi Charles.
Yes, i visit FreeBASIC forums pretty often. Mostly i check and post at linux board, quickly others too...sometimes.

Few years ago i worked with PowerBasic sometime and i liked it but for certain reasons i decided to remove my XP from hdd completely. If there would be such a thing as powerbasic for linux, i would like to use it.

There was mentioned at PB website about coming linux version, for few years so i guess we can forget it

[Eros Olmi]

I'm also interested in FreeBasic but mainly as a language to develop modules for thinBasic.
I have developed a thinBasic SDK interface for FreeBasic and released here: http://community.thinbasic.com/index.php?board=105.0

With thinBasic SDK users can create theyr own thinBasic modules adding new functionalities to thinBasic language.

I'm not an expert of FreeBasic but so far I like it very much. Maybe one day I will start to port thinBasic development from PowerBasic to FreeBasic but for the moment it is a too big job.

Wellcome here E.K.
Eros

[Kent Sarikaya]

Welcome here E.K.

I am learning powerBasic at the moment, but it is getting harder and harder for me to learn new languages... and with this last big effort I want to put into mastering a language, I am not sure powerBasic is it. I would like to use something with Object Oriented Programming but as an option as it is in C++. How far away is freeBasic in your opinion to bringing OOP capabilities? I also love thinBasic and will always use it but want to learn more one more compilable language that meets the criteria above with the addition of cross platform options.

[E.K.Virtanen]

Hi Kent.

Im bit wrong person to compare OOP between C++ and FreeBasic but there is still way to go. For my needs, FB is great since im modular programming fun. Tho, when FB has OOP implemted fully, i might think otherway.

[Kent Sarikaya]

If you look at KBasic, the OOP in it is so nice clean. It doesn't mess up the elegance of Basic syntax.

Also on the Coding Monkeys forum there is this post about eC. It is a very very interesting version of C with classes and easy on the eyes syntax, although it follow C styling too. Hard to explain. Also in another post there is link about the licensing discussion, it appears it might go openSource soon and already has a nice policy for use for personal or commercial.
I think with the level of programming expertise on this forum, many of you guys will find both of these languages pretty interesting.

http://www.kbasic.org/doku.php

http://www.ecere.com/action.html

This is where talk about ecere is on coding monkeys:
http://www.codingmonkeys.com/index.php?topic=1412.msg8729;topicseen#new

[E.K.Virtanen]

Greetings Kent.

I have followed KBasic website pretty closely in past year. Actually, i do follow over 50 basic compiler/interpreter/community website weekly because im just curious and becauseof PCopy. There is just so many interesting dialects that i would need to resign from my work (and girlfriend prolly too ) to got time to check them all more detailly.

Anyway, i have wanted to take a look for some language and after your post, i decided KBasic it is (just downloading).

[Paul Squires]

Hi E.K.

I just installed Ubuntu 7.10 and I used your FreeBASIC install script to get the libraries into the system. Thanks for making the process so easy. I am still a Linux newbie so every little thing helps at this point.

I was also able to get your GEdit highlighting to work as well, although I did have to change gtksourceview-1.0 to gtksourceview-2.0 in your instructions in order for the "FreeBASIC" highlighter to show up in the Highlight Mode menu in GEdit.

Thanks!

[Darrell Price]

Paul,

There is a website called linuxcommand.org that is very helpful for beginners to learn the command line in Linux. You can also download the entire site in a tar.gz file for viewing offline.

HTH,
Darrell

[Kent Sarikaya]

E.K, I am enjoying reading PCopy. I will be very interested to read your review and thoughts about KBasic after you play with it for awhile.

[E.K.Virtanen]

Hi E.K.

I just installed Ubuntu 7.10...

Hi Paul. Good to know that someone got something help from those tutorials.
Im glad you have decided to try out ubuntu. I think its greatest but for old windows user, it is a mess at start. Hopefully your patience hangs on as long as it takes to learn some ubuntu

Here is few quick tips to help you at start.
http://codecraft.proboards59.com/index.cgi?board=linux&action=display&thread=1167228170
http://codecraft.proboards59.com/index.cgi?board=linux&action=display&thread=1166717757
http://codecraft.proboards59.com/index.cgi?board=linux&action=display&thread=1167248488

What comes for gtksourceview-1.0 to gtksourceview-2.0 i forgot to change that totally. My bad but glad that you solved it out yourself.

@Kent Sarikaya;
I downloaded and installed KBasic but to say, it is slow as ****. Compiling simple hello world takes over 50 seconds wich is too long. Might be up to my settings or something, cant believe its that slow. Goin to try to fix it.
Sadly, i doubt can i write anything about it for next issue of PCopy. Maybe for next one then And if youre familiar with KBasic, feel free to write preview or something about it for next issue

E.K.Virtanen
www.ascii-world.com

[Kent Sarikaya]

E.K., I haven't used KBasic. Just looked through their site and kept it bookmarked in case I feel I ever need to move to another Basic. There is not much out about it, so when you get to your review it will be good to read.

[E.K.Virtanen]

Hi Kent.

Seems like i just cant get KBasic work properly eventho i have looked all settings. Tho, my whole computer feels slow after i had problems of updating ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10. There were powercut in middle of it and i think everything didnt get installed ok.
I am waiting install cd's to come (actually 20 of them ) so i reinstall then. Too lazy to do online update since my isp connection aint fastest known.

E.K.Virtanen
www.ascii-world.com

[Kent Sarikaya]

Don't feel bad, I spoke with a friend yesterday and he had a similar problem with the Ubuntu install and is waiting for the cd's too. I will tell him about your experience too as I told you about his. At least this way you guys know you are not the only ones to go through this sort of thing. Sorry to hear about it anyways.